2der 2der If this change happens… Delaney Street gets crowded Fs and crowds rush to Essex Street, transferring to a J or Z, which thus transfers to the Shuttle at Myrtle The Broadway el is screwed if this happens and the F, J and Z gain crowds
2der TfLByeBye Not only that, 63rd Street gets 8 car Vs so Welfare Island gets screwed and crowded as well, and 53rd Street gets even more crowded E and F trains
2der TfLByeBye And the Williamsburg connection relives crowing that the F, J and Z would deal with if that shuffle happened
TfLByeBye 2der so they are crowding the M, the M goes to less crowded places, and the F, J and Z go to more crowded but more less crowded places, more crowds is worse and tiny crowds is low-ridership
2der TfLByeBye The M now helps the F J and Z with transfers to the Broadway El during weekdays, but the MTA would be cooked if they did that change
2der 2der Between 1976 and 2010, Delancey and Essex Streets were so crowded (due to the K’s elimination) that they merged the M and V
2der TfLByeBye Yes. The F would basically be the 1st half of the crowding (and the worst), which transfer to the J and/or Z (which would be equally crowded), the 3rd and final phase is to transfer to the shuttle (which delays Z service)
TfLByeBye 2der so, the shuttle delays the j, so the crowding shifts to the j/z, and that crowding shifts to the shuttle (I’m just talking along, I don’t really understand (actually, the crowds shift into more stations, in turn, overcrowding them)
2der TfLByeBye No, the shuttle delays the Z because the shuttle uses the express track to terminate, which the Z uses to skip more stops
2der 2der They said the MTA CONFIRMED they’d do this craziness. I guess the MTA just went “Screw you, riders” and threw (in the future) a wrench in their plans
2der 2der Even one of those map makers (Van something, his actual name is Andrew Lynch) even showed the F & V in his latest map